NTR- Barry Chamish Interview

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September 09, 2008 01:13 PM PDT
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Chris interviews Israeli investigative reporter Barry Chamish.

Barrys Website:

http://www.thebarrychamishwebsite.com/

Topics discussed:

The Plan to destroy Israel from the inside

Peres, Abbas and Cheney recent Italian visit

The war on religious Jews

The CIA under the direction of CFR were training and equipping PLO terrorist to demoralized certain settlements as a part of OSLO.

The Israel connection to the war in Georgia

The media portrayal of the situation in isreal

Secret meeting w/Jacob Frank and the Rothschild�s and Adam Weishaupt

Was Joan peters correct? Why the animosity?

Yitzhak Rabin assassination .

Does America really support Israel?

have the recent leaders of Israel always been NWO or was it a slow process
do you think the plan was from the very beginning to bring the jews all to one place to be able to more easily target them?

Good Zionism bad Zionism?

Joe Biden and John McCain CFR?

NTR – William (Bill) Cooper Debunks Jordan Maxwell

While listening to William (Bill) Coopers famous Mystery Babylon series I noticed that Bill was reading something, like he normally did, but this time he didnt say what it was he was reading. So I googled it and found out it was from Jordan Maxwells book That Old Time Religion

After I made that connection, Cooper did all the debunking.

This presentation will show the following:

1.) Cooper makes it very clear that he believes Maxwell to be spreading the mystery religion

2.) It will also show that Maxwell is NOT showing us what they believe, but that he is telling us (in essence) to believe what they believe.

3.) Cooper clearly implicates Zechariah Sitchin in relation to Maxwells work.

4.) It will explain Coopers position, which has been misrepresented by people that failed to realize that he would read Masonic literature often in order to expose it to the public, he clearly seems to think Maxwell book is Masonic as well.

5.) I break down the interview of Maxwell on The Hour of The Time.

You can download this movie in WMV format here

https://conspiracyclothes.com/nowheretorun/ra/movie/cooper_debunks_%20maxwell.wmv

NTR – Bill Schnoebelen’s Prophecy Club presentation from the mid 90’s

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August 25, 2008 08:27 AM PDT
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Bills Website:

http://www.withoneaccord.org/

The Prophecy Club Website

http://www.prophecyclub.com/

He has been studying religion and spirituality in one form or another all of his life, and is an ordained minister. Additionally, he has been a careful student of the UFO phenomenon since the late 1960’s. He was gloriously saved by Yah’shua the Messiah (Jesus Christ) in 1984.

Bill is a recognized authority on alternative religions and the occult, and spent sixteen years as a teacher of witchcraft, spiritism and ceremonial magick. His spiritual search also included seven years in the Church of Satan. Additionally, he spent nine years as an active member of the Freemasonic fraternity and five years as a devout member of the LDS (Mormon) church, where he held numerous offices, including elders’ quorum president. He and his wife also held temple recommends in the LDS church for four years.

Nowhere To Run – Stan Deyo interview

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August 21, 2008 02:03 PM PDT
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Chris interviews Stan Deyo:

His website:

http://standeyo.com
Some video and other interviews with Stan
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8222679614108378695&ei=ZMmtSJfBMJv0qgLxn8SwDA&q=stan+deyo
http://media.libsyn.com/media/pidradio/pidradio051206.mp3

http://www.podcastdirectory.com/podcasts/6593

Stan Deyo Explains Quantum physics and �non-local reality�!!
The slowing speed of light and its relation to the age of the universe
How it relates to Einsteins 10 dimensional model
He explains gravity and the and Redshift quantization
Vortex Theory

He discusses how his work 30 years ago lead to the research and understanding of information only beginning to be discussed today.
He discussed the �False Rapture� and possible scenarios that may play out.

He discusses dimensional portals or �stargates� being made with a toroidal coil and the apparent satanic influence driving at least some of there construction.
Also this leads to discussion of the �tower of Babel�
He discusses his cracking of the code of the Great seal of the United States.
Tells us what he believes �Chemtrails� are
He explains his theory on mars and the asteroid belt,chri explaining the orbital physics involved.
He discusses The coming Alien deception and the very specific details that are being planned to be used in the propagation of the idea.
he discusses the �Great White Brotherhood� and how they are behind almost every esoteric movement no matter how different they are.

He talks about Theosophy and its connection the coming deception.

He talks about his recent work and what you can exect from him and Holly in the next few months (very exiting)

Nowhere To Run 07-30-08

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July 30, 2008 11:58 AM PDT
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Tennessee church shooting, black awakening thoughts, fluoride, John todd, tracts, Ravi Zacharias.

Show Notes: Church Shooter profile http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/jul/29/friends-suspect-had-two-sides/?printer=1/

John Todd (Johnny) info and mp3 downloads (mp3�s at the bottomof page) http://www.kt70.com/~jamesjpn/articles/john_todd_and_the_illuminati.htm

Ravi Zacharias

http://rzim.org/

Nowhere To Run – 07 07 08

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July 08, 2008 05:18 AM PDT
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In the first few minutes Chris talks about the recent videos he has been making,

and the Frank and Chris Show.

He then goes into some of his recent findings regarding high fructose corn syrup. What it is, how its made, why we have it, and what its doing to us are all discussed.

After playing a C.S. Lewis/ Bob Marley hybrid clip, Chris plays a clip from Russ Dizdar and discusses his recent prayer method.

Show Notes:

Chris� YouTube page

http://youtube.com/nowheretorun1984

Team Kevin Podcast

http://teamkevin.podomatic.com

Russ Dizdar Movie

Download this movie in WMV format

https://conspiracyclothes.com/nowheretorun/ra/movie/Russ_movie.wmv

Nowhere To Run – Robb Revere interview

Nowhere To Run – Robb Revere interview

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July 03, 2008 12:03 PM PDT
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Chris interviews Robb Revere, founder of the Revere Radio Network.

They talk about independent radio, raising children in these interesting times,
Vaccines, The Teletubbies, personal philosophy and beliefs, bible, prophecy, The Truth Movement and the future of Revere and those that make it what it is.

http://revereradio.net

Nowhere To Run – Evidence for the Existence of Jesus

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This video references the following website:

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http://www.thedevineevidence.com/jesus_history.html
This video is a presentation of the evidence for the existence of Jesus.
It uses only non- biblical sources and goes through the skeptical arguments for each claim.

It will be surprising for some to see how much evidence for the historicity of Jesus there actually is, in fact there is more evidence for Jesus� existence, as you will see, than there is for most of the prominent figures in ancient history.

Did Jesus really exist? The Evidence

Click here to download the entire movie in wmv format

Zeitgeist Challenge responds to Acharya S

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June 11, 2008 10:55 PM PDT

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A little while back Acharya S or (D.M. Murdock) author of the �The Christ Conspiracy� and a consultant to part one of The Zeitgeist movie put out a video responding to all the websites and videos that debunk part one (the religion part) of The Zeitgeist movie.

My friend and I created http://zeitgeistchallenge.com a while back where we offer cash for anyone who can prove the claims zeitgeist makes about the similarities between Jesus and other gods. (no one has answered the challenge yet by the way)

we couldn�t believe the stuff that Acharya thought she could get away with in this video, So we thought we would take the time to point out some of the problems.

Its available at google video

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8296054934404709290

Or at Youtube in three parts. (this is a �playlist� so they should play consecutively)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jmUGPbNkFeU&…&playnext=1

Here is her original video

http://youtube.com/watch?v=F_9ZyddjaM4&feature=related

Zeitgeist debunking links

http://zeitgeistchallenge.com

http://ct.grenme.com/index.php/Zeitgeist_Part_I
http://www.preventingtruthdecay.org/zeitgeistpartone.shtml

http://www.tektonics.org/copycat/copycathub.html

http://www.thedevineevidence.com/jesus_similarities.html
http://www.kingdavid8.com/Copycat/Home.html

http://zeitgeistchallenge.com/component/option,com_weblinks/task,view/catid,2/id,8/

http://educate-yourself.org/lte/zeigheistandacharya01aug0...

http://www.zeitgeistresponse.info/

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7572663630528394775
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPXc1QcmYDY

http://www.alwaysbeready.com/index.php?option=com_content…

http://benwitherington.blogspot.com/2007/12/zeitgeist-of-...

http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?act=ST&f=15&t=14…
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread286883/pg1

http://zeitgeistchallenge.com/component/option,com_seyret/Itemid,32/

http://www.allaboutreligion.org/is-jesus-god-aar-afb2.htm

Nowhere To Run 06-02-08

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Chris rants about danger, faith, fluoride, Ron Paul, spiritual warfare, and being effective in the challenging the New World Order.

Show Notes:

The Frank and Chris Show on Itunes
http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=280084357

The Frank and Chris Show website (to download episode 5)
http://www.talkshoe.com/tc/38723

Russ Dizdar:
http://shatterthedarkness.net
http://preemtionbroadcast.podomatic.com

Nowhere To Run – Sleep Paralysis

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This is a video and podcast about sleep paralysis, and how to stop it.
The first half is a collection of testimonies from youtube from various people sharing their experiences with sleep paralysis. .
The second half is a collection of testimonies of people that have ended sleep paralysis taken from an unlikely source: �Alien Abduction Crisis Centers of America� ( http://aaccoa.org )

While the two types of experiences are different in some cases, in others the similarities are undeniable. The interesting part is that they are both stopped the same way.

These experiences are very different apparently we can stop sleep paralysis, or alien abduction the same way, listen to the accounts of people from all kinds of different backgrounds tell you their stories.

There is Hope

Thanks to Joe Jordan and aaccoa for all their love and work.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5590992964881412732

Nowhere To Run 5-15-08 Debunking Jordan Maxwell

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Debunking Jordan Maxwell, The Movie

Jordanus Maximus

This is a film detailing the many mistakes and outright lies of Jordan Maxwell.

After months of research and checking Jordan Maxwell�s �facts� I found him to be a very deceptive and manipulative teacher. In addition to debunking many of his claims this films looks at his motivations and associations and shows that his philosophy is exactly that of the So called New World Order, although it is very cleverly hidden. You will find his devotion to Theosophy includes naming Himself �Jordanus Maximus�

Like ,many, I used to believe everything this man said.

Not anymore.

Do I Think he is one of THEM?

I don�t know, but I do know that whether he is or not, he is helping sell so called Truth Seekers the New World Order religion on a silver platter. This could be happening for a number of reasons including he himself being decieved.

 

download this movie in WMV format here

https://conspiracyclothes.com/nowheretorun/ra/maxwell/Debunking_Jordan_Maxwell_final.wmv

Does the sun die on the cross of the zodiac?

Is the compass rose an acronym for �NEWS�

Does Christ mean �oil�?

Does anoint mean �sex�?

Is God merely a volcano?

Does the ark of the covenant represent the feminine ability to give life?

Did King Solomon exist?

Is the name Solomon derived from Sol OM On

Does OM mean The Sun?

Do we call turning on lights �on� because of Heliopolis?

Does Solomons temple represent sex?

Was Manna in the bible psychedelic mushrooms?

Where is the mushroom painting?

Does mushroom art in the 1200 speak for Christianity?

Does Judaism come from Saturn Worship?

Did the Egyptians say the sun was setting because of their god Set?

Does Yahweh or YHWH mean the building up and releasing of dynamic energy? And is it associated with sex?

Did Jordan Maxwell get His name from blavatskys �Jordanus Maximus� and why is he lying about it?

Jordan Maxwell calls for a new world order

He says God communicates with us only through symbols

He says the non-human/human hybrids are here and that they have a �divine right� to rule over us and that he is smart enough to accept it.

He also says that these hybrids are going to reward him for understanding their symbols

Some history about the Nephilim and the sons of god

Jordan Maxwell describes his encounter with aliens

Jordan Maxwell explains how he told these entities that he would do their will as long as the didn�t come to him in his room or �abduct him�

And he explains how this deal was later confirmed and they would �channel� through him.

He describes his uncle and family in the Vatican and the mob and says they are one in the same.

More weird associations and conclusion

nowhere to run’s youtube channel

http://youtube.com/nowheretorun

The Frank and Chris Show LIVE 5-14-08

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Frank Lordi of Salvation Revelation and Chris White of Nowhere to Run Team Up to Take on the New World Order in this Revelations Radio Network Production. Featuring guests and guest hosts from the Revelations Radio Network.

This episode is an update from Chris about his Jordan Maxwell Debate, Theosophy, the Vatican Announces Aliens are Our Brothers, and Hopefully Calls from Listeners.

This show is broadcast live on Talkshoe.com and its a very interactive and fun way to broadcast. visit the http://talkshoe.com website and register so you can participate next week. stay tuned to this site for details on the time.

Show Notes

http://www.talkshoe.com/tc/38723

Nowhere To Run – cage match debate with Matt Kazee

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Chris is a guest on the 33rd Parallel with Matt Kazee. It’s a “cage match” debate on Jordan Maxwell. A very exiting debate and discussion.

Matt’s Website

http://truthmovement.com

Russ Dizdar’s new live show

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Russ-Dizdar

Nowhere To Run – David Lowe interview w/ Amos

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Chris and Amos from Revelations Radio interview David Lowe about his research and his book Earthquake Resurrection, They dive into some of the most difficult and interesting points concerning Bible prophecy. It was one of the most exiting and productive interviews on the subject I have ever heard. Check your preconceived notions at the door and listen to this interview.

Show Notes

David Lowe’s website
http://www.earthquakeresurrection.com/

order his books or pdfs here

http://www.earthquakeresurrection.com/order.html

Amos Ridley’s podcast TruthStream Oasison Revelations Radio
http://truthstream.podomatic.com/

Nowhere To Run 3-5-08

This episode talks about Chemtrails, Jordan Maxwell, Michael Tsarion, Possible scenarios to get us into a world government. Also a clip from “betrayal of the chosen” is played detailing the recent history of the state of Israel and how an anti-jewish mentality is being forced on us without logic considering the facts (this clip is amazing info btw)

Show notes

Franks Jordan Maxwell video

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9207351371478132272

or youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfWhBepqXkc

some forum post about it

http://www.jackbloodforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=18267

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=29290.0
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message512873/pg1#7905128

Nowhere To Run 02-27-08

Chris rants about the meaning of life (more or less) before talking about King James and how his writings show him to be a amazing guy. And how many of the conspiracy theories surrounding him and Francis Bacon have been put forth by those that absolutely needed to discredit him, the primary group being the Rosicrucians which James almost single handedly defeated in Europe. And that even today it is Rosicrucians who put forth the same tired stories concerning him.

Revelations Radio Network
http://revelationsradionetwork.com

Above top Secret zeitgeist discussion:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread336434/pg1′

King James Audio:
http://www.watch.pair.com/cutting-edge.html

Help promote that zeitgeist is a lie on myspace:

Zeitgeist The Movie serves the New World Order Agenda article

Here are some good debunkings of Zeitgeist

http://www.thedevineevidence.com/jesus_similarities.html

http://www.tektonics.org/copycat/copycathub.html

http://www.kingdavid8.com/Copycat/Home.html

Take The Zeitgeist Challenge

Russ Dizdar Interview

This is the second interview with Russ Dizdar Chris and Russ talk about coven level spiritual warfare, multiple personality disorder and satanic ritual abuse, triggers, military technology, prayer mapping, the black awakening, school shootings, high level satanic agenda, how to defeat it, and many other interesting things. One of the best episodes on Nowhere To Run yet. Spread it around.

Show Notes:

Russ Dizdar
http://shatterthedarkness.net
http://preemptionbroadcast.podomatic.com/

Nowhere To Run 2-19-08

Chris talks about his recent car wreck, about b17, a vitamin that supposedly cures and prevents cancer, he talks about mind control, and the strange connections that the people involved with it have to military black ops, /channeling stuff, elf and emf frequency research, and alien/ufo research and misinfo. Please check out the links in the show notes at the mind control forums website to see the weird connections these men have to each other.
He also talks about a conspiracy theory in the book of Matthew don�t worry its nothing controversial this time.

Show Notes:

Team Kevin Podcast
http://teamkevin.podomatic.com

Zeitgeist day (Zday) anybody feel like following the money?
http://zeitgeistmovie.com/zdayevents.htm

Vitamin b17
http://www.janethull.com/newsletter/0606/natures_cancer_prevention_vitamin_b17.php
http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer/Laetrile.html
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Health_Concerns/Vitamin%20B17/vitamin_b17_and_laetrile.htm

weird mind control connections
http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/hambone/people.html
http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/hambone/people1.html

Andrija Puharich
http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/06/12/puharich-strikes-again/
http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/hambone/puharich.html
http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/07/12/puharich-elf-tooth-implants/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrija_Puharich

Nowhere To Run 01-10-08

Chris gets fired up about the disinformation mafia, and calls for people to begin to ask them the tough questions. and to put the truth back in the truth movement. Chris calls out Alan Watt, Tsarion. Freeman, and Sitchin specifically, He also talks about his recent discoveries that may prove Sitchin to be a fraud. The gloves are off. The battle for the truth begins.

Show Notes:

Jeff Cross� website
http://shortwavewars.com
interviews w. Jeff on Zeph Daniels show
http://www.zephnet.com/?select=guests&guest_id=51

The Devine Evidence website mentioned
http://www.thedevineevidence.com/jesus_history.html

Alan Watt audio clip that was played:
http://216.240.133.177/Watt/08/Link to the zeitgeist challenge
https://conspiracyclothes.com/nowheretorun/zeitgeist_challenge.html

Sitchin info
http://sitchiniswrong.com
here is a link to the write up on the tomb of Huy Rock debunking
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread325477/pg1

here is info on the plaster rocket
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sitchin/esp_sitchin_13.htm
http://www.archaeology.org/9811/newsbriefs/byzantine.html
http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=it&u=
http://www.ufonetwork.it/oggetti_4.asp&prev=/search%3Fq
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Nowhere To Run 01-03-08

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This Episode discusses the Divine Council. It is as Michael Heiser States �one of the most neglected, misunderstood, side-stepped and critical doctrinal areas in the Old Testament. In fact, it is the backdrop for most of New Testament theology.

It is also the key to Debunking the misuse of the term Elohim by modern detractors such as Sitchin, Maxwell, and Tsarion. Without this piece of the puzzle Christians and non-christians alike are going to have a tough time understanding some aspects of the Bible.

Chris reads an excerpt from Dr Heisers book on the subject.

Show Notes:
http://www.thedivinecouncil.com/Introduction%20to%20the%20Divine%20Council%20MTIT.pdf
http://www.thedivinecouncil.com/
http://www.learnthebible.org/o_s_preeminence_of_jesus_christ.htm

Sitchins and others errors with the word Elohim discussed here
http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/dc101elohim.pdf

Nowhere To Run 11-27-07

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This episode explores the conspiracy theory underneath the conspiracy theory regarding the Dead Sea Scrolls. Why they were exclusively under the control of some seven scholars on the pay of JD Rockefeller Jr. and why almost 50 years would pass until the public was allowed to check John Allegros facts.
Does the evidence show that there was a conspiracy to withhold what the scrolls would tell us to protect the ideals of christianity?, or, is it more probable, that the events of the past to have been a deliberate attempt by Rockefeller to capitalize on the half a century monopoly of information by telling us the scrolls discredit christianity, a notion, that we have only now (after the scroll monopoly was broken) totally dis proven. what would the agenda be? what makes sense when all things are considered?

Show Notes:
http://www.gnosis.org/library/dss/dss_timeline.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Marco_Allegro
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_D._Rockefeller,_Jr.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/portrait/scrollmeaning.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea_Scrolls
http://www.ctlibrary.com/ct/1997/october6/7tb38a.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Strugnell
http://www.ewtn.com/library/SCRIPTUR/DEADSEA.HTM
http://www.asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/1957/JASA12-57MacRae.html
http://johnallegro.org
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emanuel_Tov

Nowhere to Run – The Many Mistakes of Michael Tsarion

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Michael Tsarion is wrong on so many levels. This episode exposes some of the big lies Tsarion promotes, as well as some as the smaller fibs. A two hour episode, which is part of a series Called Debunking Michael Tsarion, and it exposes him as at best, totally incompetent as a researcher and at worst an agent for the Illuminati.

Show Notes:

Jordan Maxwell�s friends list, (a cointelpro extravaganza)
http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/gallery.html

Archeological evidence of the bible
http://www.probe.org/content/view/31/77/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/11/ntablet111.xml

Biblical text integrity
http://www.khouse.org/6640/BP084/
http://home.earthlink.net/~ronrhodes/Manuscript.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septuagint

Did Akhenaten Influence Jewish Monotheism?
http://www.tektonics.org/copycat/akhenaten.html

Duke of Brunswick and Sydney West misquotes
http://www.book-of-thoth.com/article1709.html

link to a previous Debunking of Zeitgeist
www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread290269/pg1
http://sacred-texts.com

were the Essenes the early Christians?
http://www.tektonics.org/af/essene.html

Other References used
http://educate-yourself.org/lte/zeigheistandacharya01aug07.shtml
http://www.tektonics.org/books/thieringrvw01.html
http://www.khouse.org/articles/2005/572/ kabbalah Talmud
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Massey#_note-1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_prostitution
http://www.khouse.org/articles/2003/479/
http://www.signs-of-the-times.org/signs/forum/viewtopic.php?id=764&p=2
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=91749 his bio

Nowhere to Run 10-02-07

Two hours of Nowhere to Run, Chris talks about declassified government projects to literally hypnotize people using commercial television and radio signals, and how actual hypnosis voices can piggy back with commercial signals and bypass the ear directly to the brain. As well as other admitted mind control technologies.

He also discusses frequency modulation of stones and the occult significance of it, especially as it relates to the pyramid as well as the ELF wave connections, and the parallel research being done by Freeman and others. He talks about cell phones and the official story of its health effects. He lists some of the main genetically modified foods and how to avoid them and why we should.

Two clips are played in this show, one being a presentation given by Brice Taylor who is a survivor of generational mind control and Satanic Ritual Abuse. He also plays a clip from the Ancient of Days conference put on by Guy Malone. Its part of a panel discussion.

Show notes:
The State of Unclassified and Commercial Technology
http://www.raven1.net/uncom.htm

Frank Lordi�s work on pyramid, elf, thoth connection
http://salvationrevelation.com/podcast-unification-theory-conclusion-is-atlantis-in-the-bible-is-there-a-portal-to-hell-under-the-great-pyramid/
http://salvationrevelation.com/unification-of-conspiracy-theories-intro-and-references/
http://salvationrevelation.com/birth-of-the-new-age-aeon-of-horus-the-new-world-order/
http://salvationrevelation.com/i-aleister-crowley-multiple-personalities-and-ritual-abuse/

Frequently Asked Questions about Cell Phones and Your Health from the CDC�s website
http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/radiation/factsheets/cellphone_facts.pdf

Brice Taylor on Google video
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1496118956250582828

ancient of days panel discussion
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4725759330034645589 Nowhere to Run 10-02-07